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the 2016 debate moderators have been announced and exactly three weeks from today, nbc news very own lester holt will moderate the first showdown at hofstra university here in new york. this year's moderators certainly have their work cut out for them because the trump of it all. "the washington post" reports that while hillary clinton is going through intense pre-debate prep worthy of a rocky montage, donald trump is planning to wing it with a debate performance one former adviser described as akin to the main event at wrestlemania which is why chris wallace, host of the third and final debate in october, raised eyebrows with what he said would be his approach to playing referee. >> donald trump and hillary clinton, what do you do if they make assertions that you know to be untrue? >> that's not my job. i do not believe that it's my job to be a truth squad. i think that's a step too far and if people want to do it after the debate, fine. it's not my role. >> joining me, radio host
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fernand anandi, steve cortez and i go right to you, my friend, eric bullard. chris wallace is saying it's not the moderator's job to fact check the people onstage. >> that's a problem, particularly in this campaign when you have someone if you look at all the fact checking sites, donald trump has broken every record for misstatements and falsehood. so the idea he's going to get onstage with hillary clinton for a presidential debate and just make stuff up for two hours, this is absolutely the wrong time to kind of be a doormat and let them do what they want. the context here, 2012, romney/obama, mitt romney said' that obama had never mentioned terrorism after benghazi. kae cann candy crowley stepped in and fact checked him. it got ugly. it went on for weeks. she paid a professional price. my fear is moderators saw that and said not me, i'm just going to skate, i'm there to ask
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questions and let them go at it. that's really not their job. >> that scares me a little, if people are worried about the backlash if they fact check the candidates. that doesn't sound like what we are supposed to be doing. >> forgive me, i'm just aghast that the son of mike wallace from "60 minutes" who was known for the art of the absolute fact checking comeback would say he's not going to fact check at the debates. it almost makes me believe that's a disqualifying statement for a presidential moderator on the commission of presidential debates and is there not a jury selection style process when somebody says something as inane and ridiculous as that to be immediately bounced from the set of the most important debates in the country's history, perhaps? >> yeah. >> it certainly doesn't help when it is said by a prominent member of the network that is tied' to one ideology. that just compounds the inartful statement. >> because it is fox and they are a conservative leaning network, to have their anchor say he's not going to fact check, doesn't that raise the
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specter people will not trust the outcome is being honestly put together? >> no. not at all. let me tell you why. you can't paint a broad brush with fox. megyn kelly got into an incredibly public fight with donald trump. >> chris wallace says he will not do that. >> but he didn't say trump only. he said either. i think first of all, fact checking on the fly is difficult for anyone. okay? joy, you are a tough interviewer. i think chris wallace makes you actually look pretty kind in terms of interviewing and he is the toughest out there. also, i would say this. hillary clinton is going to finally be on the spot because she has been literally hiding. she has only done the most scripted, carefully controlled appearances she can possibly do. she hasn't had a press conference since 2015. that's going to change. it's going to change not with chris wallace. it's going to change with less to lester holt who will be incredibly tough and fair and the american people will see squarely where does she stand
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and where does donald trump stand. >> it's interesting, guys here at the table. i'm not a lawyer but there's a technique in the courtroom wherein you present a statement you know will be ruled out of order boy ty the judge, you knoe objection will be sustained. you say it anyway because you want the jury to hear it. we have all worked in campaigns with the exception of eric. sometimes what you want to do is use the opportunity for a question not to answer the question but to present negative information about your opponent. if there's no fact checking going on, couldn't the candidate -- >> wait. what did i present that was untrue? >> i don't think i was addressing you. i'm saying don't you think that without fact checking taking place on the stage, there's an opportunity now for the candidates to simply put whatever they want out on the floor -- >> what is the point of a presidential debate if you are not going to have the media, the fourth estate, do the job it's supposed to be doing? it's almost waveing the white flag of surrender prior to the start of debate and license for
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donald trump to come out and do whatever he wants. chris wallace signaling with a wink to say just go ahead and say whatever you want, you're cool when i'm onstage, mr. trump. >> in fairness to my friend, i don't think that's what chris wallace is talking about. chris' point it seems to me was to say if a candidate makes an assertion during the course of the debate, it's not up to me to have my staff scurry around in the back trying to find the data and prove whether or not that's true. that would make for a very awkward debate. >> so you guys do it at media matters as well but a lot of news organizations in real-time do fact check. you actually do have a team of people behind the scenes at these networks who are doing that. what he's saying he won't use the information. >> i think the problem is for the moderator, traditionally, they haven't been a fact checker. there has been sort of a gentle woman, gentleman's agreement, if you are nominee for president of the united states, you are not going to come onstage and lie for 90 minutes. we don't have a lot of presidential debates where they lie, lie, lie, but i think trump will probably do that for 90
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minutes. so if he says -- >> hang on. >> that's not fair. >> that's totally unfair and deserves a response. >> you will get to respond. let him finish his statement, steve. >> quick example, donald trump gets on the debate and says under obama, employment is 13%, that's unacceptable, how can that happen. is chris wallace really just going to sit there and pretend unemployment is 13%? i would be shocked but he's signaling it. >> next week is the start of the nfl football season. in an era of the 21st century technology where games are decided in half a second, you are telling me that the technology does not exist for these sacred debates which millions of americans will be making their decision, perhaps certifying their decision to not have fact checkers send a note or instant message or text to chris saying hey, actually, what hillary clinton said was wrong in this case, correct her on the record, i'm sure she would welcome that. why doesn't donald trump welcome that? >> to that point, if donald trump, he said in some of his appearances he's used inflated numbers for unemployment.
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that's exact example you just heard eric make. if donald trump gets onstage and says unemployment is 13%, don't you think in fairness, chris wallace should say no, sir, it is not 13%? >> he can absolutely be challenged and should be. by the way, i think he will give a good answer as to why it might actually be double digits. i don't know that it's 13% but far higher than stated. i can't leave that unchallenged to say donald trump will get up and lie for 90 minutes. that's just inflammatory and wrong and by the way, if we want to talk about lying and obfuscation, donald trump is not the one who was our national security official who had her aides destroy with a hammer her 13 blackberries and multiple ipads. >> remember when i said earlier there's a technique in which you use a question as an opportunity to put negative information out about the other candidate? that is also a technique that surrogates do. that the idea is you are asked a question about your candidate and you pivot to the other candidate. that's a technique that i know is used by surrogates but this
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segment is not with that. let's not do that here. let me show you an example of what donald trump might do. if we want to talk about realistically based on history what he might do. this is a montage of donald trump debating his republican opponents during the primary. take a look. >> i mean, first of all this guy's a choke artist and this guy's a liar. when you say crazy zealot are you talking about you? don't worry about it little marco. >> let's hear, big don. >> don't worry about it, little marco. >> this is a tough business. >> oh, you're a tough guy, jeb. >> i never attacked him on his look and believe me, there's plenty of subject matter right there. >> i have given my answer, lyin' ted. go ahead. go ahead. don't get nervous. go ahead. >> i'm going to ask my strategist at the table. how would you advise the moderator to handle a moment like that? >> well, here's the problem. i think if donald trump knows everything is going to be fact
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checked his only move is to invoke some of the invective we saw him hurl at his opponents during the primary debates. if you are donald trump, i think your strategy heading into this debate is very simple. you focus on a handful of things that you want to say about hillary clinton and that is it. you talk before about answering the question you want asked, not the question you were asked. i think you will see that in spades. i heard someone say on one of the sunday shows yesterday donald trump needs to bone up on policy. that's the last thing i think he should do prior to this debate because, a, he's not going to do it. b, if he tries to espouse a position we know it won't come across as genuine. we know he will talk about being the outsider, he will talk about hillary being crooked and if you want change in washington, he's the candidate. those are the only three things he should focus on. >> if you were advising hillary clinton how to handle somebody who interrupts, tries to stop the question from being asked, we saw him do that against his republican opponents and who doesn't want to have the answer be completed and tries to insert insults instead, if he tries that with hillary clinton, what
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should she do? >> let him keep talking and hand him a bigger shovel. because remember, this is very different than the republican debates where he could kind of roller pin off the others. it's him and her. to your question earlier, i don't think the moderator should get into style points or style, that's for the american people to decide when they go to the polls in november. however, a fact checker is something that i think donald trump should welcome for no other reason than to check hillary clinton. he says all the time what a liar she is. how crooked she is. all the more reason to have a fact checker onstage. in that regard, i think it's a huge, huge mistake for chris wallace and the commission of presidential debates to let a statement like that stand which basically again waves the white flag of surrender to any substance in this debate. >> on the other side of that, if donald trump hears something that hillary clinton says that he thinks is untrue and can't rely on the moderator to say anything about it, what do you expect him to do? >> well, i don't expect him to be timid, that's for sure. that's one thing we know. look, the first debate is lester holt. love him.
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he's a chicago boy. i think he will do fantastic and be tough but fair on both opponents. i expect this, we heard it tonight, the washington elites, media elites will continue to condescend to donald trump and his supporters. we will be called racists and simpletons but guess what? we will win this debate and win this election. >> you are good at inserting that information you want to put in that has nothing to do with what i asked you. you are the guy who patrols the media. how will you end up scoring this in terms of the media response to these debates? what should we do? >> an equal bar for both. if donald trump doesn't fall off the stage, that doesn't mean he had a great night. we have seen that over and over. hillary clinton, very experienced, very bright. she knows all the policy. the press really, really has an extremely low bar for donald trump. we saw that when he went to mexico. if we are going to have presidential debates we have to hold both of them to the same standard. again, ninety abothat point aboa big one. roger ailes from what we know is
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helping trump with debate prep. we have chris wallace from fox telling trump do whatever you want, i'm just going to watch. that looks awful. >> speaking of stories we should be talking more about, the fact roger ailes with all that he's dealing with, multiple allegations of sexual harassment, that he's even advising trump. thank you much. '. next, are the russians, just to keep this light, trying to hack our election? stay with us. 'sgliefshlg 'sgliefshlgts' (burke) and we covered it, february third, twenty-sixteen. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
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>> president obama today acknowledged some shall we say tension with russia when it comes to cybersecurity. just a few days after u.s. intelligence officials told nbc news that russian hackers breached illinois's voter registration data base and stole 200,000 voter records. their attempt to infiltrate arizona's data base was unsuccessful. officials are now investigating whether those hacks are a sign that the russian attempt to sow distrust in the u.s. elections process. gentlemen, thank you very much for being here. i want to start by playing what hillary clinton had to say about this today. she directly addressed this question of russian hacking and our election. take a listen. >> unless there is a willingness on the part of the major national actors in launching cyberattacks, namely russia,
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china, iran, north korea, we are going to have to take those threats and those attacks seriously. and that's why i was relieved that our national security professionals made the point about russian interference with our elections. it's almost unthinkable. >> so malcolm, does the fact that you now have one of the major presidential candidates acknowledging the threat, the fact that it's public, that we are talking about it on television, does that reduce the likelihood the russians will try it or does it just make them change their tactics? >> i think it will make them change their tactics. daylighting this operation has been going on for about two months now. what we have seen is that they still continue to release information, they still use wikileaks as their cutout, their third party where they believe they can get this information into the public realm. these relatively amateurish attempts to hack into the cyberdata bases of these states'
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elections organizations, they haven't even tried to use sophisticated techniques yet, shows that they are not only bold in what they are trying to do, they have a disregard for us because they believe we either can't defend it or that they have put out enough chaff, enough misinformation as part of their political warfare operation, to make it appear that one side does it, the other side does it, it's not important. this isn't like china in 2008 where they went after a specific policy paper. this is an attempt to literally put their hand on the scale and choose a candidate. >> basil, what are local democratic officials doing like in new york to try to combat these kind of threats? >> i think we have a fairly, you know, a lot of people sort of hate on our system. you go into the voting, the polling site and see the folks at the front desk and it sort of becomes comical to some people but these are very hard-working people. the board of elections in every
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state i think will re-engage in poll watching the people who are checking you in at the front. there's analog versus digital and i think sometimes analog works very well. look, i was at the democratic convention right before debbie wasserman schultz stepped down because of some e-mails that were produced. that's problematic but i don't want to also give the impression that there's a sort of widespread fear that our elections will be rigged because that sort of leads into things that donald trump has been saying and sort of keying up or teeing up in case he loses, in my opinion. that said, listen, i think the parties are going to need a tremendous amount of training which in this particular election is warranted. i trust the board of elections and our poll watchers. >> that's a good point because you do have donald trump trying to sow distrust in the process,
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in case he loses, he can say it's fraud. it's a very different thing. what he's saying is in black and hispanic, urban communities, people are going in, trying to say i'm malcolm nance, me voting as you, and that's what he's saying is happening. he's telling people to' watch the ush brban voters. that's very different than the threat you were talking about. >> he's saying if the result doesn't go his way, that's election fraud. which by the way, his statement in pennsylvania is patently illegal. only two people are allowed per candidate, per party to come and observe at an election. however, what's going on is unfortunately, trump has been played into this. he is sort of an unwitting asset. there's a lot of information going on around the internet that we know originates in russia. russia has an entire cybertrolls operation. the "new york times" wrote quite a bit about it that works out of st. petersburg and puts out bots
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on twitter and other formats that put out pro-trump propaganda and actually attack people out there. what we are most concerned with is not the fact that there's almost zero, zero percent of in-person election fraud in the united states. what we are most concerned about is that on election day, as the tallies are coming up and being totaled, i think i said this before on this program, the state tallies suddenly change by hundreds of thousands to make it appear that there's actually clearly somebody manipulating the totals within the computer systems. that could set the united states in a constitutional crisis of which we have never seen before and it would be weeks before we would know it's a foreign actor. that's the thing that would play into his hands. >> harry reid, the senate minority leader, has written to fbi director james comey about these data base hacks and cited evidence of russian tampering in the u.s. vote. he's looking for an fbi inquiry. >> i think that that's warranted also. to malcolm's point, there is
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paper also so we actually can go back and look at paper and make sure our vote tallies are comparable. i think that's very important. that's something that actually has held up some of the restructuring of the way we vote. a lot of people are trying to move to machines because there was concern about paper. >> i will ask you as your opinion, do you think it's high time we moved to a federalized system of voting? because we have 50 different systems and the localities are also different. does it make any sense for a modern country to vote this way? >> to me it does, because i always gave the example that i went to vietnam some years ago and i was able to go to a cash machine and pull my money out. if i can do that on the other side of the world, i can actually go and vote and feel that that vote is taken and accepted and legitimate. i think everybody should have that opportunity with modern election systems. >> lastly, we are out of time, do you think there would be a secure way to do an online based
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national system for americans to vote? is there a secure way to do t p that? >> sure. but those electronic means like new york state, have yyou have e paper that comes out and shows a validation of that vote. there's always a paper trail. using regular voting machines in itself is a risk. >> that and we need early voting in new york. that's a whole other conversation. thank you very much to basil and malcolm. president obama weighs in on colin kaepernick's ongoing protest. stay with us. start yours with philips sonicare, the no.1 choice of dentists. compared to oral-b 7000, philips sonicare flexcare platinum removes significantly more plaque. this is the sound of sonic technology cleaning deep between teeth. hear the difference? get healthier gums in just 2 weeks vs a manual toothbrush and experience an amazg feel of clean. innovation and you. philips sonicare. save now when you buy philips sonicare.
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'. san francisco 49er colin kaepernick continues to make waves outside the sports world. receiving the ultimate endorsement today from president obama who weighed in on the quarterback's controversial decision to not stand during the national anthem before games. >> in terms of mr. kaepernick, i got to confess that i haven't been thinking about football while i have been over here, and i haven't been following this closely, but my understanding at least is that he's exercising his constitutional right to make a statement. i think there's a long history
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of sports figures doing so. i don't doubt his sincerity based on what i've heard. i think he cares about some real legitimate issues that have to be talked about. if nothing else, what he's done is he's generated more conversation around some topics that need to be talked about. >> in what has become a high profile protest against police brutality and racism, kaepernick continues to sit or kneel during the anthem while other nfl players including 49er teammate eric reed and the seahawks' jeremy lane joined in the silent protest. now solidarity with kaepernick is rippling into other parts of professional sports. on sunday night, u.s. women's soccer start megan rapinho kneeled during the anthem in chicago. after the game, she confirmed the decision was a nod to kaepernick, adding quote, being a gay american i know what it means to look at the flag and not have it protect all of your
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liberties. it's important to have white people stand in support of people of color on this. we do not need to be the leading voice, of course, but standing in support of them is something that's really powerful. as president obama noted today the intersection of sports and protest has a long history. one of the more iconic examples being the 1968 olympics in mexico city when olympic sprinters raised black-gloved fists as the american national anthem played during their medal ceremony. a lesser known aspect of the story is how australian sprinter peter norman, who won the silver in the 200 meters, showed solidarity by wearing over his left breast a badge that read olympic project for human rights. an organization that opposed racism in sports. while smith and carlos are now celebrated as human rights pioneers, norman effectively ended his career. luckily we don't see that same fate for kaepernick and his allies. up next, private security guards bring out dogs in a clash with anti-pipeline protesters
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for months, the standing rock sioux tribe of north dakota has been fighting the construction of a pipeline that they say has destroyed tribal land and threatens their drinking water. on saturday, protesters stormed the site and private security for the pipeline company energy transfer responded with dogs and pepper spray. here's a report from the scene courtesy of democracy now. >> [ bleep ]. get your [ bleep ] out of here! >> get the [ bleep ] out! >> do we scare you? what's your dog going to do?
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get the [ bleep ] out of here! >> energy transfer defended its response saying quote, we are greatly saddened and extremely bothered to confirm that unwarranted violence occurred on private property under easement to dakota access pipeline resulting in injury to multiple members of our security personnel and several dogs. we will not tolerate the assault and/or injury to our employees or contractors. the sheriff's office which was not on the scene also said the protesters were the instigators, saying protesters physically assaulted private security officers hired by dakota access pipeline. the security officers were hit and jabbed with fence posts and flag poles according to several reports from security officers, knives were pulled on them or they witnessed protesters with large knives, unquote. the sheriff said quote, this was more like a riot than a protest. he vowed to investigate and potentially prosecute the demonstrators involved. no arrests were made at the
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scene. democracy now's amy goodman was on the scene saturday and joining us via skype is chairman of the standing rock sioux tribe, david archembault ii. amy, if you could just describe as an observer of this, not a participant, what it was like. >> it was terrifying. to see dogs and highly potent pepper spray unleashed on men, women and children at a point where they don't call themselves protesters. they call themselves protectors of the land. i saw chairman dave friday night at this big camp of resistance. there is a gathering now of more than 100 tribes. we haven't seen anything like this in decades. but to have hundreds of people there to protect the land and to have dogs unleashed on them, i
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mean, one of the dogs, i was at very close range with this dog, had blood dripping from its nose and its mouth. i watched as the dog bit horses, some of the native americans were on horseback and were biting. i interviewed several protesters who were bitten by the dogs and the handlers of these dogs wouldn't stop. they used the dogs as weapons. it was like alabama in 1965. >> i want to play a little more. we have another clip from your report from amy's democracy now report which shows the moment that protesters actually broke through the fence on this property. take a look. >> people have gone through the fence. men, women and children. the bulldozers are still going. and they are yelling at the men in hard hats. one man in a hard hat threw one of the protesters down. they are marching over the dirt mounds.
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some of the security have dogs. the six bulldozers are pulling back right now. people are marching forward in their tracks. >> looking at these chilling pictures, the sheriff as well as a spokesman for the company have essentially described your group as rioters, saying the instigation was taking place on your side. can you describe what this action was about and what the significance of that land is? >> it was by far not a riot. what was happening was a reaction to something that the company was doing, and the company very well knew that this was an intentional -- it was intentional by the company and it was provoked by the company, a day before -- the day before we went to the site, the area, and we were surveying for sacred sites and we discovered sacred prayer sites as well as grave
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sites. and the company, the information was turned over to the judge because we are in court saying we need to protect these sites. the information was turned over to the judge. the judge had to give the information to the company. what the company did was leapfrog across 11 miles and got to the site where the sacred sites were. >> are you saying, sir, they are digging or drilling or they are doing construction on these sacred sites? these sites that are sacred to you, to your tribe? >> they knew that we discovered sacred sites. so what they did was they went and destroyed them intentionally. this was all premeditated. the security company knew that something was going to happen. they provoked the action. they brought pepper spray and they brought dogs, and the handlers of these dogs were
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untrained. from what i was told, these dogs started attacking the handlers so they released the dogs into the crowd. >> wow. amy -- >> there's a hearing in federal court tomorrow in washington, d.c. as the chairman was saying, they gave information to the judge and of course, all sides hear it including the dakota access pipeline. they gave this information where these sacred sites were. this is a labor day weekend. the bulldozers don't work on the weekend. but this weekend, the day after they gave over that information, they're there bulldozing over those sites. now there has been an appeal for a tro, temporary restraining order, tomorrow to stop all of this construction until all of this is verified. >> is it, in your view, i know you have been a journalist quite awhile, is it legal for a private security company to sic biting dogs on people?
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>> i mean, this is a very important question. should this security company and also is the property owner liable for this. dakota access pipeline overall, the fact that it's even named dakota which means friend or ally. but the fact that they unleashed their dogs as weapons and assaulted these protesters, you have the county sheriff making allegations. the police, the sheriffs weren't even there. clearly they were called. these people had means of communicating. they had walkie-talkies. but they didn't come on the ground. instead it was the dogs unleashed by their security that attacked the protesters. >> david archembault, were people injured? are there people that are hospitalized? can you give us the status of those injured whether by dogs or
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pepper spray? >> there were about 20 or more people who got pepper sprayed and that action right there provoked the protectors even more because something was used on them and they seen people going down and then when they brought the dogs up, the dogs were used to push, try to push the protectors back. it was getting -- once one of the dogs attacked a handler and they released it, the dog did attack the horse and did bite -- i know of at least six people who got bit by dogs. some of them didn't break the skin but i know two for sure, a lady got a puncture in her breast and a man got punctured in the middle of his chest by dogs. >> oh, my goodness. >> we will be showing more of this on democracy now on tuesday. >> you can see more of this report on democracy now. amy goodman has done this report. thank you for the footage of that protest. we will look for the full report on democracy now.
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amphibian. male teacher: excellent. welcome to a brighter future. welcome to it all. comcast. frequency open, mr. spock. >> spock here, captain. >> hi, daddy. >> when i came to visit the set, they started shooting that first season at the end of may, early june in 1966. i was 9, almost 10 years old. i was off for summer vacation. this is why dad would take me to work with him. i would get up early in the morning and we would drive to desilu next to the paramount lot. i would be there all day.
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>> that was a clip from the documentary "for the love of spock" which comes out this friday september 9th. just in time for the 50th anniversary. "star trek" the original series. i am a huge fan. this weekend, i went to star trek mission new york to get in on the fun. all right, fellow geeks. we are at star trek mission new york. we will walk around dressed as fabulous characters. i'm uehora in case you couldn't tell. we will have a great time. let's go. all right. we are here talking to adam nimoy, the son of the great legendary leonard nimoy. in your view, what was the importance of "star trek"? >> it's a positive view of the future, that we will have a
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future, the human race will still be around and we will all be working together for the common good. >> why do you suppose spock and captain kirk are such good friends? >> opposites attract. >> that's not a good sign. >> that's not good. who is your favorite character? >> kirk. >> you say i'm the captain of the ship. >> i'm the captain of the ship. >> perfect. beaming you up. it turns out i'm not the only uehora here. there are three of us. they are so fabulous. what inspired you to come today? >> i grew up watching "star trek" sitting on the living room floor, watching the original series, like a little girl watching and wanting to be her. who wouldn't want to sit and watch and be her? >> is there anything better slash geekier than combining "star trek" and "sherlock
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holmes"? >> probably not but here we are. >> how long did it take you to get yourself together? you look fabulous today. >> like ten minutes. >> you woke up like this? >> yeah. pretty much. >> i know nobody who works in my field that doesn't think there's life out there. >> we are not alone? >> why would we study this if we didn't think there was life out there? >> i'm captain of the ship. >> what's your favorite thing about "star trek"? >> probably the hopefulness, the peace. something hopeful to look forward to, that the future might be better than the world we live in today. >> i have a question for you, joy. what was it like to sit in the chair? >> i felt immense power. is your baby wearing a treble? >> isn't uehora better than everyone else? >> i think she should be running the ship. >> that's the right answer.
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because you're so logical. live long and prosper. that was so much fun. earlier today, i had the chance to sit down with adam nimoy, leonard's son, and to talk to him about his upcoming film. i am joined now by adam nimoy, director of "for the love of spock" which debuts in theaters and vod simultaneously on september 9th. very exciting. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> let's first talk about growing up as the son of spock. that must have been weird for a kid. your dad is so famous. what was that like? >> well, it had its ups and downs. on the one hand it was very exciting because dad had been in the tv industry for many years. we had been watching his career and it was great that he finally was on a show, starring on a show for the first time that was a hit that people were responding to. we got a lot of fan attention, fan mail, and that was wonderful. it was a great time for the family. on the other hand, we got a lot of fan attention and fan mail
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and it got to be overwhelming at a point. it was difficult teo even be in public with him. >> was it difficult sometimes for people who were fans and loved him and the series to separate mr. spock from leonard nimoy? >> yeah. this was an issue that my dad had often to deal with. in fact, he wrote an auto biography entitled "i am not spock" to try to clarify he's an actor playing the role because people melded the two characters together. every time they saw him they referred to him as spock or gave him the vulcan salute. yeah, people have a lot of trouble identifying an iconic character and separating them from the actor or artist who plays the character. >> he also did in search of which was fabulous. how did this film come together? what's wonderful about it, it has so many aspects of your dad, him telling the story and you joining him as his son doing it as well. talk about how this film came together. >> well, i had approached my dad about making this documentary, a
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spock documentary in november 2014. we both were aware we were coming up on the 50th anniversary on thursday of this week, september 8th, of the original series. we wanted to create something to celebrate half a century of "star trek" and mr. spock. he was enthusiastic about the idea. we immediately started to work on it together. three months later he had passed away so we continued with the project and expanded it to include not only the life of mr. spock but also the life and legacy of my father. >> yeah. you have got participation from so many characters who became iconic. people like william shatner and nichelle nichols. talk about the relationships between the people in this incredible series. was it what we think it should be? were they all really close? >> there were a lot of ups and downs. it was a family and there's sometimes conflict within the family which is fairly normal. it's wonderful to be relating to them now because it really feels
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like we have gone through so much together. there's plenty that has been written about my dad and bill shatner, the ups and downs of their relationship. bill has a book out about my dad where he discusses that. i think they all really made a collaborative effort to make an incredible show. we were just at a convention in new york where i saw bill shatner and a number of people from "next generation" and other "star trek" related series. for me it's really got a great family feel to it. >> one of the things that made it so important to me and a lot of people who watched it as kids, this was the first time you saw such diversity. a group of people working together who were not only interracial but intergalactic, from different planets and different races all working together on one starship. that was really important. there's a clip in the film i want us to take a look at in which george takei is talking about trying to carry this same sense of diversity over to the animated series. there was an animated series as
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well. and really, how your father and the team really insisted on keeping that diversity going. >> bill was cast to do captain kirk. leonard was cast to do mr. spock. jimmy doogan was cast to do scottie and all the other male voices. and nurse chapell was cast along with all the female voices. when leonard learned of that, he said what "star trek" is about is diversity, coming together and working in concert as a team, and he said the two people that most personified that diversity in our cast are nichelle nickels and george takei and if they're not going to be part of this, i'm not interested. >> there's something so special about your dad. why was that important to him?
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>> he just felt it was important that everybody keep working. this was the '70s. when "star trek" was over, everybody was out of jobs. they were all trying to find their way, their own careers. it was a very difficult time for everybody related to "star trek" so when this opportunity came up for the animated series my dad felt very strongly that everybody who could be, should be included and working on this animation instead of having some of the actors playing other actors. it didn't make sense to him. he took a stand on it. >> absolutely. i want to play another clip. this is your dad, how the vulcan death grip came about. >> so the script was written that spock comes up, sneaks up behind the mean kirk and hits him on the head with the butt of a gun. that's what was written in the script. so i said to the director i think we should do something different than that. he said what do you mean, what do you have in mind? i said well, spock's a graduate of vulcan institute of technology where he took a number of courses in human
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anatomy and the vulcans have a kind of energy that comes off their finger trtips which if properly applied to points on the human anatomy would render the person unconscious. the guy didn't know what i was talking about. but i told him and he knew exactly what i was talking about. when i came up behind him and put my hand on his neck, he's the one that sold it. he went like that and dropped like a rock. >> that is so great. one of the things that's, as fun as that is, that "star trek" embraced was this idea of technology, of actually taking science seriously as part of a series that was a lot of fun. was that deliberate? was this a gene roddenberry thing? >> they really went through pains to try to find science to base a lot of what they were doing on. it's so interesting now, nasa takes such a great interest in "star trek" because so much of
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what they created has come to pass in terms of present day technology. but they did try to base it on real science. i think that's one of the reasons the series is so respected. >> and last question, if your dad were here today, what do you think he would say was the most important impact that "star trek" had? >> i think what he would say is what really the fans have been echoing repeatedly to me as i interviewed them for our film which is that it's a positive message for the future, that we will survive in the 23rd century and not only that, we will come together and work together for the common good. we live in such a fractured age, so much political, social turmoil is going on particularly now, very much so as it was in the '60s. this is something people can really glom on to and look forward to with a positive hope for the future. >> adam nimoy, one of the great things about your dad was mr. spock was only half human but had such incredible humanity. we appreciate you bringing him to us in this way.
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